Curse

BlackSephir · Jun 12, 2008, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Yes, we need to make pve even easier.

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Since they Nerf SR i haven't touch my Necro.

Sucks to be you.

Axel Zinfandel · Jun 12, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by underverse_ninja

Forget Minion limit............they need to revert Soul Reaping to it's glory days, Since they Nerf SR i haven't touch my Necro.

SR is still the best energy management out there. If you need more then it + SoLS, you are clearly not paying attention.

Riceboi · Jun 12, 2008, 12:37 AM // 00:37

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

I think there should be a skill that instantly kills every enemy in an instance and deposits all the loot automatically in your inventory. It's PvE only because players don't drop loot in HoH. Please, no arguments about PvE being too easy or any unbalance - we already have Ursan, so this skill isn't too bad.

Please, sign for me and leave a comment in support.

Thanks.

awesome reject

Lest121 · Jun 12, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Yes, we need to make pve even easier.

Sucks to be you.

I have 8 characters and not enough time, I wasn't playing with the Nec before the SR nerf, the SR nerf just made me turn my Nec into a Storage Mule, and i was only kidding about the SR buff, because the thread itself is a Joke.

Shayne Hawke · Jun 12, 2008, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Maybe they should make Verata's skills somewhat more useful first.

Razorblade Monkey · Jun 12, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

I am controlling 78 minions!
My Health is 550 of 550
<Blood of the Master>
My Health is 1 of 550

MONKS HEEL PLZZZZZ!!!!!!!! ZOMGWTFNFW!!!!!11!!!one!!1!!!

XD

Anyhoo, /notsigned. The only reason I would wish for this is for a screenie: 12-party team in urgoz/deep, all mm's, all with xx(x?) minions each =oP

Also, re: the infamous SR qq'ing, I mm in pve and LOVE it! Lots o' fun imo, 10 fiends ftw! =oD Even when I occasionally pvp as necro, still good fun, and rarely run into energy probs. You don't see god-like N/D mm bombers dominating ab because SR gives insufficient eman... Like others have said, if you've got problems maintaining energy with SR as it is while others pwn, then I fear the problem lay with the user. And besides, not playing your necro before the SR nerf, then not touching your necro after the SR nerf, then offering opinions on SR? Ummmm.... riiiiiiight...

rick1027 · Jun 12, 2008, 01:00 AM // 01:00

well if they arent gonna fix what they've broken or should have nerfed they might as make it more ridiculus. sort of signed but give the proceeds to the noobs

Chthon · Jun 12, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06

1. Playing MM before the many nerfs to the build was the most fun I ever had playing guild wars. Nothing in Factions, Nightfall, or GWEN has ever compared.

2. Removing the cap makes MM about skill again. Any noob can raise 10 minions. But your skill in build design and execution starts to matter when they are the only limitations on how strong your army can get.

3. If the cap were removed, we would NOT see a return to the huge 50+ minion armies of Prophecies.

3a. Because of the way the life sacrifice on BotM scales with the number of minions you have, you'd kill yourself if you tried to keep anything near that many minions. (JB and FftD both cycle too slowly to keep up with minions' natural degen.)

3b. Because of the way the life sacrifice on OoU scales with the number of minions that you have, you'd have an incentive to keep your army small enough to be able to use such a powerful elite.

For the above reasons,

/signed.

(On the topic of verata's sacrifice. Revert it to it's pre-nerf form (47 sec duration, 60 recharge) and add an effect that your life sacrifices are doubled for its duration to force you to choose between VS and BotM instead of using both.)

Infectious · Jun 12, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

At the risk of repeating myself...
This idea is full of fail and aids.
You have ursan, 10 minons is plenty, if not, sit 'n slit.

Cathode_Reborn · Jun 12, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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Originally Posted by Riceboi

Maybe we can persuade them to change it.

"We" ?

It's your thread, your idea. Why arn't YOU giving any reason to do it?

Broken Baby · Jun 12, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

anyone notice how anyone registered to the site before 2008, the majority havent signed? all the new people are the only ones that are signing. anyway, /notsigned

Bluefeather · Jun 12, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

I'll give you my vote. I hope they'll listen to this petition.

/signed

Aldric · Jun 12, 2008, 01:21 AM // 01:21

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Originally Posted by Chthon

1. Playing MM before the many nerfs to the build was the most fun I ever had playing guild wars. Nothing in Factions, Nightfall, or GWEN has ever compared.

2. Removing the cap makes MM about skill again. Any noob can raise 10 minions. But your skill in build design and execution starts to matter when they are the only limitations on how strong your army can get.

3. If the cap were removed, we would NOT see a return to the huge 50+ minion armies of Prophecies.

3a. Because of the way the life sacrifice on BotM scales with the number of minions you have, you'd kill yourself if you tried to keep anything near that many minions. (JB and FftD both cycle too slowly to keep up with minions' natural degen.)

3b. Because of the way the life sacrifice on OoU scales with the number of minions that you have, you'd have an incentive to keep your army small enough to be able to use such a powerful elite.

For the above reasons,

/signed.

(On the topic of verata's sacrifice. Revert it to it's pre-nerf form (47 sec duration, 60 recharge) and add an effect that your life sacrifices are doubled for its duration to force you to choose between VS and BotM instead of using both.)

A well thought out and probably true answer , for about 1% of MM's. The rest will be racing to 85 minions , saccing themselves to death and moving straight onto monk rage

Then we'd have complaints everywhere that MM is impossible as you sac yourself to death all the time and calling for a nerf again

/unsigned because as you can see from this thread , most of the supporters just want 290685 minions for the pve pwnage!

Joseph Leito · Jun 12, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24

/UNsigned.

PvE is too easy as it is. STOP UNNERFING THINGS.

Frankly, these skills should be nerfed:

Burning Arrow: Lower the + damage substantially, it's the only overpowered Ranger elite.

Mending: Lol, just kidding. Needs a buff though.

Shadow Form: You're RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing KIDDING me! Make it removable by more.

Don't like my ideas? Ignore me, don't try to flame. There are too many farming builds that any idiot with a mouse and a keyboard can run, it's eliminating any semblence of challenge. Higher minion caps make that worse. Imagine: Jade Sea farming by simply running out to where the Outcasts and Naga murder eachother, raising an army and stomping everything in the Sea.

Chronos the Defiler · Jun 12, 2008, 01:25 AM // 01:25

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Originally Posted by Merios

/unsigned.

You realize how ridiculously powerful 2-3 minion master teams would become? Given the possibility of hundreds of minions slowing down framerate and giving enemies seconds to live before they get destroyed? Bad idea.

BotM effects ALL minions, not just your own, having more than 2 minion masters would mean insta-death if you used BotM...which is not desirable.

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Originally Posted by Razorblade Monkey

I am controlling 78 minions!
My Health is 550 of 550
<Blood of the Master>
My Health is 1 of 550

MONKS HEEL PLZZZZZ!!!!!!!! ZOMGWTFNFW!!!!!11!!!one!!1!!!

XD

Anyhoo, /notsigned. The only reason I would wish for this is for a screenie: 12-party team in urgoz/deep, all mm's, all with xx(x?) minions each =oP

Also, re: the infamous SR qq'ing, I mm in pve and LOVE it! Lots o' fun imo, 10 fiends ftw! =oD Even when I occasionally pvp as necro, still good fun, and rarely run into energy probs. You don't see god-like N/D mm bombers dominating ab because SR gives insufficient eman... Like others have said, if you've got problems maintaining energy with SR as it is while others pwn, then I fear the problem lay with the user. And besides, not playing your necro before the SR nerf, then not touching your necro after the SR nerf, then offering opinions on SR? Ummmm.... riiiiiiight...

If i had 78 minions, i would sac myself just to let my team fight my army..because you have to admit, that would be fun to watch

Crunk N Monkey · Jun 12, 2008, 02:13 AM // 02:13

agreed, i used SR all throughout nightfall, w/o minions. thanks to unded and lack of exploitable bodies. But needless to say, unlimited minions would spell trouble and you'll never get it approved even if everyone in the game wanted it. Also i think most of you are forgetting that Guild Wars was built around teammates and playing with other people, not playing solo and breezing your way through it. You wanna play solo, get ready to play long and hard, or take teammates and have some fun.

I dont know what Verata's was before, but its still pretty powerful now, especially in AB battles, i usually run an SS with Verata's aura just in case i come in contact with a MM and steal his minions, so that way i become a SS and MM. XD

Siadena · Jun 12, 2008, 02:21 AM // 02:21

lol, everything else is overly-dominating - for old time sake, why not - bring it on - there's no reason not to anymore.....

mistokibbles · Jun 12, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

/not signed
Barbs + 10 minions kills just about anything.

Chronos the Defiler · Jun 12, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53

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Originally Posted by Crunk N Monkey

agreed, i used SR all throughout nightfall, w/o minions. thanks to unded and lack of exploitable bodies. But needless to say, unlimited minions would spell trouble and you'll never get it approved even if everyone in the game wanted it. Also i think most of you are forgetting that Guild Wars was built around teammates and playing with other people, not playing solo and breezing your way through it. You wanna play solo, get ready to play long and hard, or take teammates and have some fun.

I dont know what Verata's was before, but its still pretty powerful now, especially in AB battles, i usually run an SS with Verata's aura just in case i come in contact with a MM and steal his minions, so that way i become a SS and MM. XD

your also forgetting when this game was created it had unlimited minions, and for quite a while as well...so a big chunk of your argument is kinda void :/

But since they added con sets, ursan, heroes, and other imba/solo the game elements, I don't see why it would hurt to bring this back...

RedStar · Jun 12, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55

/notsigned
Keeping 10 minions alive is already annoying and except a few areas, corpses aren't lying everywhere. Maybe pushing the limit a little would be nice.

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You realize how ridiculously powerful 2-3 minion master teams would become? Given the possibility of hundreds of minions slowing down framerate and giving enemies seconds to live before they get destroyed? Bad idea.

Right now 2-3 mm = 30 minions max. Except blood of the master (which hurts badly with 30 minions) and maybe heal area there's no skill worth a skill slot for healing your minions. So I don't really see how 1 mm could have 50+ minions at a time.

Hint : BotM and some other skills got nerfed with time, so don't say "before it was possible" or things like that.